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Coranto project your help is apreciated

Postby Esstee » Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:08 am

I want to put this newspage layout together using Coranto. Additionaly along the way I also
want to create a complete step by step tutorial for anyone who wants to make use of any of
the Coranto features individually or otherwise.

Is there anyone willing to help me put this together?

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Your help will be greatly appreciated
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Postby Parahead » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:43 am

I would say that this is possible to do with Coranto. If I would do it I would use Maginot for the full story/read more articles (which isn´t shown on your example), the NewsColumn addon to create the grey middle part and the headlines in the top news.

The three news categories at the bottom is just the freshest newsitem and then the 5 newest headlines. Using one of the many snippet methods suggested in the Q&A or here in the forum would be a good idea to get the ingress part.

To create the top newsitem with the "inbedded" headlines I would suggest including the headlines file from within the style used to create the top news. That could be done by placing an SSI include tag inside that style.

The menu to the left is really up to you how to administrate, depending if they are "locked" links you can just place them in the shtml file, or if you would like to use Coranto and administrate the menu by publishing newsitems?

The last update thing at the top left corner can be achived by the NewFiles Advanced addon. I use that feature myself on my site...

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Postby muttly » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:56 pm

If you still plan to do the tutorial, you might want to have a chat with Dale Ray who has already begun to compile a more formal set of docs than currently exists. The thread is here

http://coranto.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7002&sid=6ec984455356a6d6a6dcec91b19b133d

I plan to create some tutorials in the near future myself, but I decided that we were probably close enough to the release of version 1.3 that I would hold off until it was official. There is enough structural difference in the new version that any thing I produced now would require substancial reworking to be current.

http://coranto.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7579&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=fb88fa68293591074bf24cc7ce75072d
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Postby Esstee » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:06 pm

were probably close enough to the release of version 1.3

Any Idea when this release is due?
I don't want to undergo a huge re install either :?
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Postby cerberos76_ » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:43 pm

The tutorial you are planning will not be affected by the changes in the coranto files. Actually you can produce that web page with the original Coranto b29 without any problem at all.
I would say that it is a very simple exercise for Coranto (less than 2 hours work).
Coranto addons:
* GuestPost, one click guestposting
* MoveIt!, Advanced Backup and site transfer
* PartialRebuild, CPU-friendly enhancement of FullBuild
* URLColumn, URLs for multiple Categories/Profiles
* Tickit!, Javascript News Tickers/Faders for Coranto!
* AddonEnabler, enables or disables single, multiple or all addons in one go
* SubmitMultiple, post consecutive news in an automatic loop!
* RSSAdvanced, RelatedNews ....

Get them at: http://coranto.gweilo.org/addons/
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Postby muttly » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:11 pm

Not sure if you are referring to me or Esstee, but I disagree. Someone who is as intimately familiar with the program as you takes a lot of stuff you take for granted that is confusing and frustrating for noobs and non-programmer types. There are still plenty of the current addons (like Kriko's Advanced Profile Postprocessing) who's potential applications are lost on me and I have done several separate real world configs now.

Certainly there is nothing stopping Esstee from getting started on his plans, but as it currently stands, my time is better spent getting a more complete understanding of 'the basics' than it is building a tutorial that is due to be obsolete in a short time.
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Postby bozoka45 » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:29 pm

Esstee wrote:
were probably close enough to the release of version 1.3

Any Idea when this release is due?
I don't want to undergo a huge re install either :?


You won't have to worry about a "huge re-install" if there is an update. It will just make Coranto work better, but you won't have to worry about doing everything again.
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Postby cerberos76_ » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:10 pm

I was referring to Esstee. and I can ensure all that a tutorial for building a web page as posted above cannot be made obsolete by 1.30.x version...

To do that page you need Coranto and some basic html skills (and if you wish Maginot, but not even that is necessary).

The feature we are improving in 1.30.x will not change how you would build that page (i.e. category selection, template writing, profile definition etc) at all. Those are the things that newbiew should learn (not how the build mechanism works in perl...).

So, be sure. If you have time and wish to write that tutorial go ahead knowing that will be lasting the 1.30 release
Coranto addons:
* GuestPost, one click guestposting
* MoveIt!, Advanced Backup and site transfer
* PartialRebuild, CPU-friendly enhancement of FullBuild
* URLColumn, URLs for multiple Categories/Profiles
* Tickit!, Javascript News Tickers/Faders for Coranto!
* AddonEnabler, enables or disables single, multiple or all addons in one go
* SubmitMultiple, post consecutive news in an automatic loop!
* RSSAdvanced, RelatedNews ....

Get them at: http://coranto.gweilo.org/addons/
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Okay great

Postby Esstee » Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:17 pm

So back to the project then :)

So other than Manginot what other addons or mds can you see this layout
needing?

I am prepping things as I type this I want to start putting things together
and writting it up as I go along, also if anyone has any suggestions on
the best combination or approach please say it now so I can prepage
things ahead of time :)
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Postby muttly » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:16 pm

I'll point out SearchNews 3.2 to cover the search feild on the right.

Parahead also pointed out 2 others - NewsColumn and NewFiles Advanced. Reread his post he even gives you several clues as to how to configure them.
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okay

Postby Esstee » Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:56 am

So we have:

    Maginot
    NewsColumn
    NewFiles Advanced.
    SearchNews 3.2


Before I start I have a few questions.

Is there a way in Coranto to resize images? ex: there are thumbnails
in the layout although I could require the news submitters to work it
out on there own I fear that doing so would only cause little or no
image submissions and the page would lack.

Also we have purchased a script in the past called Article Manager.
although it is powerul it has serious limitations outside of the template
formatting and almost no addons or support above custom coding
which comes at a high price. But one feature we all liked about
"AM" was its WYSIWYG feature, now I saw 2 addons for Coranto
that could do this but wondered, if I used Manginot with a teaser
feild and a full story feild, is there a way to get WYSIWYG in both
feilds?

I guess at this stage these are the most important questions for
now. the rest should come in during the development.
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Postby muttly » Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:14 am

Have a look at WebWriter 3.2 and/or WYSIWYG Editor. I don't use them, I set my look as CSS and embed it in my the Style so I don't remember which is which, but one of them has a surprising number of options.

Also check out Multipart 1.56. It will at minimum force dimensions on a thumbnail.
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Postby SrNupsen » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:46 am

To answer one of your questions: No, with WebWriter you only get WYSIWYG in the main text field. It's due to the nature of HTMLarea, I think.

So you'll have to either stick to a separate "Teaser" custom field (with no WYSIWYG) or possibly use the snip feature (either snip by number of characters or snip, say, the first paragraph). Search the forums for "snip" and/or "paragraph", this has been covered before.

Good luck, and ask again if you run into trouble!
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I'm back and ready to start

Postby Esstee » Thu May 19, 2005 1:58 am

I hope I didn't wait to long ;)

I have been overly preoccupied with familly life, college and work
over the past months but now I am in a position to start on this project.

So... I'm going to grab the latest none beta version of Coranto and Maginot
unless someone feels I should stick to a particular version this is my starting
point.

I'm lookign frward to getting this project together.
Also I will put my tutorial project in effect also, by recording the steps
with screen shots and final product for anyone else following in the
same footsteps.

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Re: I'm back and ready to start

Postby Parahead » Thu May 19, 2005 7:12 am

Esstee wrote:So... I'm going to grab the latest none beta version of Coranto and Maginot
unless someone feels I should stick to a particular version this is my starting
point.
Currently 1.24 is the stable release of Coranto, read the first newspost on the front NEWS-page regarding the development branch... Since the currently available 1.30 test-2 version contains bugs I shouldn´t use it but instead wait till we get the new development version out...
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